tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post501655967492339413..comments2024-03-25T19:43:11.027-04:00Comments on Planet Blue: Chrono Cross Part 1Eric Fuchs (BlueHighwind)http://www.blogger.com/profile/10520427554161808399noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-31759372337418222222012-08-12T21:15:28.316-04:002012-08-12T21:15:28.316-04:00Its Shockstorm. Long story.Its Shockstorm. Long story.Eric Fuchs (BlueHighwind)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10520427554161808399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-81458593573928183812012-08-09T12:07:14.826-04:002012-08-09T12:07:14.826-04:00Diebuster is to the original Gunbuster what Chrono...Diebuster is to the original Gunbuster what Chrono Cross is to the original Chrono Trigger: highly debated "not true sequels!!! rage!", loved by some and hated by others.<br /><br />I for one greatly enjoyed Chrono Cross.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-50063461196555445712012-08-07T22:03:27.529-04:002012-08-07T22:03:27.529-04:00I apologize, my comment last night came off as a b...I apologize, my comment last night came off as a bit rude. <br />As far as Xenogears's story having an affect on FFVII, Xenogears was actually written before the final draft of FFVII, as Xenogears was originally submitted to be FFVII. Kato was working on both games, and when he wrote the section of FFVII where Cloud is regaining his memories, you can see very clear influence from working on Xenogears as well, even directly referencing Xenogears. The reference was partially lost in translation though. Kato also referenced Xenogears in Chrono Cross.<br /><br />Anyways, I actually do enjoy Chrono Cross. I was a bit of a sour mood last night when I made that comment. I just really didn't like the presentation of the story, dumping the plot in huge, spread out chunks. The presentation and pacing could have been much better. I still really enjoy the story, the graphics are beautiful, and the music is outstanding. I actually recently replayed the game when it was released on the PSN. I just feel Kato's writing is a bit sloppy, but still entertaining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-45007359995764393452012-08-07T14:23:08.918-04:002012-08-07T14:23:08.918-04:00And I think were most people stop caring. When you...And I think were most people stop caring. When you compared Final Fantasy 6 to 7. If your a fan of the FF series and when you play a new one you don't expect to play the EXACT same game as the last FF you played. Each one can stand on it's own and don't have to reference each other outside of cameos or name titles. Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are different. Cross is a DIRECT SEQUEL to Trigger and as such they only mention the former game in bits and pieces until the end of the game where it all is suppose to come together. And when you play a Sequel to a game sure the battle system doesn't has to be the same as the original, but just completing changing the whole thing to THIS is just blasphemy. If Cross was a stand alone title and made little had nods to Chrono then it would be a mediocre game with great music and graphics. But it's a DIRECT sequel that basically didn't have anything to do with Trigger.Uzukihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15774827099493056981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-63468838808466073802012-08-07T13:41:18.778-04:002012-08-07T13:41:18.778-04:00@Anon: Final Fantasy VII was mostly written before...@Anon: Final Fantasy VII was mostly written before Xenogears, and Kato's work on them was mostly done around the same time. I don't think you can say he ripped off Xenogears while contributing to VII. He used the same themes, those of identity, whether destiny was set in stone and if that mattered, and the question of the meaning of life. These themes form the root of almost all poular fiction, from video games like those mentioned here, to plays like Hamlet, and modern films such as The Dark Knight Rises. <br /><br />Also, Kato wrote what is frequently touted as the best part of the original Chrono Trigger, the sequence in Zeal in 12,000 BC. In a way, Radical Dreamers and Chrono Cross are really continuations of THAT story. Chrono Cross' point isn't to be a direct sequel to Trigger, it's to clear up the one question Kato left hanging in his work on the game: what the hell happened to Princess Schala. In that way, I think, both stories are a success. <br /><br />Chrono Cross is actually one of my favorite games. I don't know if I like it more than Trigger, but in general I dislike saying certain games I love are better than others. It's impossible for me to choose one favorite. Granted, the battle system is a little unwieldly, and yes, it basically amounts to a rock-paper-scissors-esque game of blue beats red, white beats black, but that's what Pokèmon's like, and I still enjoy those games from time to time. Unlike Pokèmon, though, Cross comes with one of the best stories told on the original Play Station, and the main characters are pretty well developed. There are certainly too many of them, I'll admit that, and to this day there are probably a handful that I've still never used, even though I've played the game at least once a year since it's release. <br /><br />I honestly think the reason people dislike this game so much is because they go in to it expecting it to be exactly like Chrono Trigger. It's not. I don't really see why that's a problem for RPG fans, though. Final Fantasy VI and VII have nothing to do with each other, storywise, but they are still both excellent games. Cross DOES continue the story of Trigger, even though it doesn't seem that way until about halfway through the game, and, at the same time, it introduces it's own plot. There are a LOT of easter eggs for diehard fans of Trigger as well, which, if you play the DS remake of Trigger, were even done retroactively, so now Trigger foreshadows Cross directly. I'm not saying the game doesn't have flaws, or that it ties every plot thread left hanging from Trigger in to a bow and concludes the series in a completely satisfactory way, but I don't think that precludes it from being an amazing game in it's own right.<br /><br />If you have a friend who's excellent at playing basketball, you can't be pissed off when her little brother doesn't match her skill. But, if you take the time to get to know him, you'll learn that he's got more skill than his sister in other areas. Trigger is the big sister and Cross is the little brother: both great at some things, both lacking in others.<br /><br />There's also a huge plot point that pisses off a lot of Trigger fans, who never get to the end and see the resolution and are all really worked up for no reason, but I won't discuss there here because I don't know if Blue finished the game or not and I don't want to spoil anything.<br /><br />Damn, I wrote enough in this comment that I might as well have just done my own blog post. lol monDrakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-32422321783651666012012-08-07T07:07:51.922-04:002012-08-07T07:07:51.922-04:00I'm not a big Masato Kato fan myself. Chrono T...I'm not a big Masato Kato fan myself. Chrono Trigger's story was enjoyable, but nothing revolutionary. Chrono Cross's story was terrible, his few contributions in Xenogears were the worst parts of the story (Chu-Chu and that stupid crucifixion scene) and his few contributions to FFVII were just ripping off the good parts of Xenogears. The only really great thing about Chrono Cross for me is the music, but even then I found Mitsuda's work on Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Shadow Hearts all far superior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-62481903521215269812012-08-07T01:35:53.186-04:002012-08-07T01:35:53.186-04:00I've never played Chrono Cross, but the music ...I've never played <i>Chrono Cross</i>, but the music in it is beautiful. I particularly like the ending theme "Radical Dreamers". The instrumental arrangements done by Eminence Symphony are especially lovely - I'll send them to you if you'd like.<br /><br />The story of "Radical Dreamers" is kind of interesting, actually. It's the name of a game Mitsuda and Kato worked on before <i>Chrono Cross</i>. It was intended as a gaiden to <i>Chrono Trigger</i>, but the production was rushed and they were never satisfied with it. Some of the music in the latter was derived from the former (including "Radical Dreamers"), along with parts of the story and themes. From one botched game to another - no wonder <i>Chrono Cross</i> is such a mess.<br /><br />Why is there a fake ILHI up there?Yuanhttp://yuanchosaan.deviantart.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-24720560248825650682012-08-06T22:31:17.878-04:002012-08-06T22:31:17.878-04:00When are you going to review Xenoblade?When are you going to review Xenoblade?MasterThiefnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-31270564436718053272012-08-06T19:02:26.016-04:002012-08-06T19:02:26.016-04:00See Blue I told you to stay away from this game. I...See Blue I told you to stay away from this game. If your a fan of the Chrono Trigger then this C=game will shit all over everything that you loved about that game. And you know what the saddest part is? You can see the potential. The great possibilities that Chrono Cross could have achieved, but just fell epically short of something that could have went down in the history of game kind. But you Can see the love that went into this game and for that I can give it a nod of respect and nothing else.<br /><br />BTW Why doe's every one have so much trouble with Miguel? I found him, and all the other bosses, incredibly easy. The only reason he took out my other players was because I was trying to trap some elements from him.Uzukihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15774827099493056981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-22270196856782529982012-08-06T15:44:55.835-04:002012-08-06T15:44:55.835-04:00Actually, one of the developers of Type-0 said the...Actually, one of the developers of Type-0 said they'd like to release it in America "sometime soon," from what I remember.HeadBodyMasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17421125276314259294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-42663529959642500152012-08-06T15:24:15.522-04:002012-08-06T15:24:15.522-04:00wow...you just said something good about final fan...wow...you just said something good about final fantasy 8 that has nothing to do with Edea. Thats newAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5553633213256417629.post-3761521970320700542012-08-06T12:22:07.812-04:002012-08-06T12:22:07.812-04:00Ya know, I was just thinking about this game when ...Ya know, I was just thinking about this game when I was plowing this chick last night. It was pretty hot, no joke. Hell, it almost distracted me from thinking about music policy (an area which I'm currently boning up on, heh).Jonathan Bedfordshireworthingtonnoreply@blogger.com